Replying to Michelle Dench, Thank you, I wanted to suggest the Asteroid Lilith and the Black Moon /Apogee-Perigee are related and the recovery of the undistorted masculine may be linked to both.

Jung's chart is worth looking at in a discusssion about the undistorted masculine and the Black Moon Lilith : I have used the H12 Mean Black Moon Lilith here which conjuncts the Midheaven. The undistorted masculine requires a lot of elimination at the root beneath the sacral center and this chart speaks to that elimination with Moon Pluto down there near the IC and then the Mean Black Moon opposition point on the IC. The first time I saw this chart with the Mean Black Moon /Midheaven conjunction - it just made sense - its the alchemical sacred marriage beyond gender..... The H13 Black Moon in conjunct the North Node ruler Mars, 1181 is in the 7 th house at 19 Virgo, and H58 is in the first house conjunct Saturn.

The 1182 Lilith wound is a consequence of a lack at the Apogee between H12 and H13. But trying to fill ouselves from the top down does not work - we are left with a repeating self inflicted wound. Instead its an elimination and emptying at the Perigee - at the root - that allows the opening into healing. The True Black Moon is like an emotional North Node and it requires a release of something at its opposition point just like the South Node of the Moon requires. If you allow and engage with the elimination of whatever is required at the Lunar perigee - something previously unknown opens and the wounding and damage we experienced and created at 1181 and H58 falls away.