Hi Rad and All,
I have been deeply pondering Neptune, the ruler of Saturn right now, and Neptune's South Node in Aquarius. This stems from looking at Pluto square the Nodal Axis and the collective imbalances within, and how that can be felt through the collective conscious/unconcious right now. Because of this pondering I have been thinking about the times we are in and how many of us are on this journey to spiritualize through remembering who we are and how we emanate from the Source of All Things. How we recover this and ground back into it through dissolving manmade constructs (Saturn) and how we are to understand more natural values through listening to the whispers from our Soul's that emanate from God/ess by tuning into the inner voice (Uranus in Taurus the SN of Neptune's ruler).
With Pluto square the Nodal axis and Saturn being it's ruler, with the SN in Libra the resolution, how we can come back into balance and harmony through these inner whispers on a collective level. To utilize this time with Venus retro to creatively actualize through liberating from those old values and needs that created the imbalances to begin with on a collective level. One thing that came into my mind was what happens when there has been mass genocide and trauma from these very values thatstem from patriarchal conditioning in prior lifetimes?
What happens to these Soul's on a collective level when they have been killed in that way? Do they collectively heal together in other planes of existence afterwards? Do you know what happens when this type of destruction occurs to these souls?
Then, also, what happens when they choose to reincarnate back here? Is it usually together? Do some of them choose to take what happened in prior lifetimes and work together as a tribe/group of souls who try to heal these types of distrotions within the collective that perpetuate instances like this? To me this is plausible with Neptune's SN in Aquarius. But what type of healing happens in other planes of existance after such traumatic events? Neptune's SN in Aquarius to me speaks of these traumatic events. Then I think about the mass genocide of Indigenous People's here in America, the tribes in Africa dessimated by slavery and colonization, Jewish people in the Holocaust, Rwanda. What happens to these souls collectively after such an event?
I can't help but to think and maybe I am generalizing, so please let me know if I am, but the group of soul's from 1989/90 who have the Uranus/Saturn/Neptune conjunction in Capricorn (I myself have this in full transparency but that is not the point here) have experienced this type of mass genocide and many were people of color or different religious backgrounds even if now they are not in this incarnation. They are also the Pluto in Scorpio generation. Are a lot of them here to do soul work to help the collective conscious to have a metamorphosis? Can you speak to this generation of soul's in particular with this conjunction?
Goddess Blessings,
Jordyn
Hi Jordyn,
With Pluto square the Nodal axis and Saturn being it's ruler, with the SN in Libra the resolution, how we can come back into balance and harmony through these inner whispers on a collective level. To utilize this time with Venus retro to creatively actualize through liberating from those old values and needs that created the imbalances to begin with on a collective level. One thing that came into my mind was what happens when there has been mass genocide and trauma from these very values that stem from patriarchal conditioning in prior lifetimes?
By remembering that the natural law of giving, sharing, and inclusion inherently creates / manifests a consciousness. Neptune/ Saturn in Pisces, that focuses on the needs of the group through which the need of an individual can be met. Venus’s co-rulership of Libra and Taurus would then create a reality in which the extremes that are created by various groups within the collective whole would dissolve where those extremes are created by various groups, individuals, within the collective whole that are defined by the corruption of this natural law of giving, sharing, and inclusion into self-interest and exclusion. Uranus now transiting Taurus correlates now to the intense and increasing traumas created within all the groups/ countries/ individuals on the planet that are all competing, transiting N.Node in Aries, with one another in terms of who will prevail within the extremes that are created though this self interest and exclusion.
What happens to these Soul's on a collective level when they have been killed in that way? Do they collectively heal together in other planes of existence afterwards? Do you know what happens when this type of destruction occurs to these souls?
Each one of these Souls will naturally reflect upon the reasons ‘why’ this has happened in the first place. Each will of course have their own individual evolutionary and karmic lessons that have lead to this situation but the underlying reasons, why, will in the end be understood by the nature of beliefs that have created this situation in the first place. For example, the Jewish race believes that they are the ‘chosen’ people by God and as result they need to be punished for this: to suffer. The ones doing the punishing will believe they are superior to anyone else and that anyone who tries to interfere with their ‘rights’ because of this superiority must be punished: thus the need to find scapegoats.
Then, also, what happens when they choose to reincarnate back here? Is it usually together? Do some of them choose to take what happened in prior lifetimes and work together as a tribe/group of souls who try to heal these types of distrotions within the collective that perpetuate instances like this? To me this is plausible with Neptune's SN in Aquarius.
Each has it’s own evolutionary and karmic journey that will be the determinant of when and where they incarnate. Some will incarnate together , some won’t.
But what type of healing happens in other planes of existance after such traumatic events? Neptune's SN in Aquarius to me speaks of these traumatic events. Then I think about the mass genocide of Indigenous People's here in America, the tribes in Africa dessimated by slavery and colonization, Jewish people in the Holocaust, Rwanda. What happens to these souls collectively after such an event?
The healing happens by way of ‘objectifying’ the causes and reasons that such traumas occur in the first place. This objectification equals knowledge. This knowledge is then ingrained in their souls that is used by each Soul in their own individual ways to help others, thus the collective, in some way. Upon the physical death of the body it is this kind of reflection that takes place in the astral realms.
I can't help but to think and maybe I am generalizing, so please let me know if I am, but the group of soul's from 1989/90 who have the Uranus/Saturn/Neptune conjunction in Capricorn (I myself have this in full transparency but that is not the point here) have experienced this type of mass genocide and many were people of color or different religious backgrounds even if now they are not in this incarnation. They are also the Pluto in Scorpio generation. Are a lot of them here to do soul work to help the collective conscious to have a metamorphosis? Can you speak to this generation of soul's in particular with this conjunction?
Some in this generation, as in other generation, will have experienced genocides, and others won’t have. For those who have not, the collective and individual memories of those that have will be part of their consciousness anyway because of being in generation in the first place: the collective consciousness of the generation itself.
Others in this generation will be souls who have actually been part of a group of people who have in fact persecuted and traumatized other groups of people that include genocides.
The underlying cause or determinant in either of these extremes is, again, beliefs. So some of the Soul’s in this generation will desire to help others, or the planet, in some way because of these memories. Others will continue to be within groups of people in this or that country that continue to persecute, traumatize, or commit genocide against others. And still others will, as in the historical past, will simply focus on their own lives relative to their own self interests within an individual consciousness that essentially says ‘there is nothing i can do anyway’.
We need to remember Jordyn the natural percentages of people that inhabit the four natural evolutionary states that JWG taught. The vast majority, 70 percent or so, are in fact in the consensus state. Thus, the vast majority on the planet now, and within the generation that you are asking about, are defined by the consensus of the country and its religions. It is this consensus definition that then becomes the determinant of how the archetypes of any given generation of Souls manifest.
God Bless, Rad