Hey Mods,
I think it might be a good idea to have a post/thread where people can ask questions and follow the post if they are interested in order to "flesh" out the archetypes on a more pointed level, if they have any.
I have a question myself, although this may come across as an obtuse question, I am going to ask because I have the thinking that no question is a "stupid" question..... I know that Pisces/Neptune/12th can reflect a hiding signature. Something I have been noticing is a lot of times this comes in combination with a Taurus/Venus/2nd house signature as well, this makes sense to me with Taurus being a signature of a hermit, and also, self-preservation and survival. My question is through you all's experience have you all seen Taurus and Pisces/2nd/12th/Neptune/Venus in combination correlate to this as well? If you have thoughts about this and "fleshing" out these archetypes that could be beneficial. To me when I have seen this in correlation with clients and also, what I know about EA and clients' charts through my own experience, some seem to have this signature because of self-preservation and survival, the feeling on a soul level to continue to hide in order to have self-preservation and to survive. This is usually in combination with soul's who are Daemon or who are much further along their own evolutionary journey than those around them (family and where they chose to be born into), and sometimes I have seen this with soul's who are hiding their sexuality (the list runs the gamut). Would this observation be correct? If someone has a chart that correlates to what I am asking, I would love for you to post it, so that others can learn from synthesizing these archetypes together.
Much Love and Gratitude,
Jordyn
Edit - I'm sorry the comments from the old board are dark - no idea how to remedy that.
Hi Rad & All,
I was trying to bring comments from JWG from old message board - it's also in the EA Glossary - the discussion is more about souls 'blocking their inherent nature'& how Jupiter & Aquarius signtures would be shown however the end of the lengthy post refers to 'hiding' as far as Neptune in the 12th & Venus & Neptune aspect (I cannot seem to bring over the pertinent post)
So - is there a difference from 'hiding' & 'blocking' one's inherent nature - ?
I'd think, though they'd sound the same, & the behaviors could be the same, that it's not entirely true as the astrological markers for each are different.
'Blocking' - compensation: Jupiter/9th/Sag & Uranus/Aquarius/11th
'hiding' - 12th /Pisces/Neptune & Venus (presumbably the Taurus side)
https://forum.schoolofevolutionaryastrology.com/index.php/topic,46.msg373.html#msg373
From the message board: "In the case of Masters like Mahasaya this phenomena is very different than other Souls that do the blocking of their 'inherent natures', and the consciousness therein. In the case of Mahasaya one of the specific purposes of his life was to use himself as an example of the path of the 'householder' in spiritual life, that it is entirely possible to have full God realization in that context as opposed to monastic living. Thus he was born as a Libra. And that dictated that he live enough years to get married, have children, etc in order to have a householder's life. So the 'blocking' was not being caused from within his own Soul: it was caused because of his mission as directed by God itself.
In almost all of the other cases that I know of in which this blocking of their consciousness, their natural natures, has happened from within the Soul itself it has been caused by a lifetime, or lifetimes, in which some major traumatic circumstance has happened BECAUSE OF THEIR INHERENT NATURES AND THE CONSCIOUSNESS THEREIN. And because of the nature of the trauma(s) this has caused the Soul such great fear in terms of being who they inherently are, their natures and consciousness, that they have then 'compensated' for their natures by 'hiding' from the world, the consensus world, who they actually are. And in that act of hiding trying to appear 'normal' from the point of view of the consensus world.
When this happens from the point of view of Evolution it is as if they come to a standstill, and are simply marking time. Psychologically speaking, they create the conditions for depression and the sense of simply going through the motions of life itself. Others will typically keep themselves overly busy with doing one thing after the other in order to avoid as best they can the deep inner pit of loneliness, and existential void, and no real sense of meaning or purpose of a lasting nature. Others can degenerate into a life of escapism in a variety of forms including drugs and alcohol.
Compensation as a dynamic is astrology correlations is Jupiter, Sagittarius, and the 9th House. Trauma of course is Uranus, the 11th House, and Aquarius. There are many possible astrological signatures that can correlate with this situation but the Sag, 9th House, Jupiter, Uranus, 11th House, Aquarius archetypes will be implicated in all cases.
All Souls have karma unless a Soul is in the most advanced states of Evolution such as an Avatar. Skipped steps are read when any planet is square the nodal axis the the Evolutionary intent of course is the recover the skipped step(s).
In terms of your friend there is no way of being able to look at any birth chart and know if a person is 'fully awake' or not. One must do the traditional astrology thing which is to make observations of the person. But your friends case is the archetypal embodiment of the skipped steps that have been caused by compensating for who they actually are due to past life traumas that have caused her to hide. The hiding part in her chart is symbolized by her S.Node in the 12th house, and also her Venus in opposition to her Neptune.
Feel free to ask more about this is you wish Ari."
Thanks
Nerissa