Asteroid Lilith (#1181)

Hi Louisegordon59,

Lilith is currently conjunct the lunar south node at 24° Libra. If you ever want to look up the asteroid, any asteroid, or planetary nodes you can go to www.true-node.com/eph1/

Lilith is also in Sirius and Solar Fire software for astrology.

Goddess Bless,

Jordyn

Thank you so much Jordyn! She is conjunct my natal Sun! 🌞

And yes, I took note of that website during your talk and can't wait to try it.

Hi bob.bills1267 and All,

My apologies, i have desired to follow up on the questions it seemed to me have come up from the conference lecture but work commiments have left me short on time.

The question you pose is also the one i would address first so thank you for posting it, which is, what to do with so many Liliths?

To put into context, both mine and Jordyn's approach was focused in the asteroid Lilith. Essentially because as an actual body in the sky, its nodes can then consistently accommodate a ground for the understanding of Lilith's journey from past to present to future (as all nodes do). In essence, the understanding of the Lilith archetype in the context of EA can be naturally integrated in the pluto paradigm. They are cut form the same cloth, so to speak.

So i would have a short and long answer from my point of view.

The shorth one is, i don't use it becuse they are confusing and instead integrate its aspects in the many dimensions of the Lilith asteroid archetype.

In the long answer, personally i do feel we still need, before this work of integration can be done, to have a dialogue on what to do with so many liliths and the overall confusion this generates which can come as a noise in the background of the pshyche, functioning like when we try to listen to someone and the train is passing rigth in front of us: unavoidably very confusing.

In essence, i do not feel one symbol is more rigth than another, we can all arrive at the same destination walking many different roads and i do think we should go with our intuitive sense in order to see if something has meaning for us or has not.

What i shared was the intuitive sense relative the fact that it seems to me the many Liliths mirror the collective conscious/unconscious evolution and survival of the natural feminine (and by consequence the natural masculine) in the field of astrology in the form of the many points, where its natural expression co-exists with a sense of not knowing and trying to find answers. Since the archetype represents the pure protection of the uncorrupted self, the many Liliths represent for me how this comes about amidts a world that is yet still designed to try and undermine that. That is why i personally feel we need to put this in to consciousness when disscussing the archetype. Meaning, are this many Liliths contributing to an inner fragmentation that prevents a reach to our wholeness and who we naturally are?

If we think that commonly the astroid would refer to the original wound, dark moon where distorted aspects manifest and black moon were resolution can be found, isn'st that playing a role in the psyche that prevents we look at ourselves, our Story, as we naturally are, with our perfections imperfections and wounds as part of what makes us and defines our journey? In essence my point would be, if someone finds meaning in looking at Lilith in its many separate aspects, there should be an awareness if there are not any other beliefs or stories playing out in the recess of the psyche.

Demetra George, in her amazing talk, approached exactly this, that relative to those Goddesses, she says they " were demonized in classical mythology as sorceresses, witches, and monsters. However, these stories masked a deeper more authentic lineage as herbalists who knew both the medicinal and magical properties of plants, and were skilled in shape-shifting and regeneration. Deeper still is their archetypal symbolism representing the feminine power to transform one state of consciousness to another."

I love how so many topics interconnected in this conference lectures, because for me this is exaclty what to have in mind when we look at the many Liliths. If we know objectively what they represent, fine to use them but if they project and perpetuate fear and lies but ourselves even if we're not entirely conscious, better step back form the train's noise.

For example, relative to the asteroid itself, yes it can represent the original wound but that's a lesser story. What it represents is the capacity in the soul to instinctually protect its sacred core from ANY wounds, how that sacred core came to survive besides all wounds and outside distortions and how we can reconected to this inner amazing power of touching the essence of how each of us was created by Source - the asteroid simbolizing All lilith aspects reunited at the place of origin, or better, come from that origin up and not the other way around.

Hope this makes sense in clarification from my part. Maybe others could join if they wish to add something.

To add yet a humorous note, and a untonishing syncronicity, i just came accross this interesting aspect in the Lilith discovery chart were mercury jupiter balsamic in pisces are exactly opposed black moon lilith in virgo. Asteroid Lilith rx is in Leo conjunct the north node of Netpune ruled by sun in aquarius (not opposed by degree). I think this is mind blwoing on this exact subjects: dont' we need to objectively liberate (aquarius) from the distorted (black moon) beliefs and ideas which need to be dissolved (mercury jupiter balsamic in pisces) in order to reconnect with our spiritual root (Lilith rx leo, Netpune nn)?

Kind of amazing... And kind of amazing this is spot on the next eclipse chart Jordyn posted (thank you Jordyn!) where the venus, ruler of the eclipse stellium in libra, is at this exact bakck moon lilith placement on the discovery chart opposed the saturn pisces, mirroring the the mercury jupiter there at the discovery chart too!

So if we remember this last long recent retrograde transit of Lilith went back to trace this early virgo degrees and is now at the eclipse degrees, this speaks volumes of our need to address anything that still lingers, represses and any patriarchal induced stories playing a song in the psyche. We don't need to dance to that tune!

Truly hope i have addressed at least part on your question.

Thank you,

Helena